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May 23, 2019

In this episode Alex and Mimi chat with the good friend and regular visitor to the Ikonn household, but a first time guest on the show, Lazo Freeman. Lazo is so inspirational to us and a fantastic transformational healer that you need to listen to. He has infinite wisdom that we love.

Born in Iraq to a mix of both Kurdish and Arab parents, Lazo tells of his difficult and challenging first few years in life, having crossed mountain borders on the back of a donkey - to fleeing Saddam's soldiers on their uncles murder charges - to spending weeks in a romanian prison. Laza’s start to life was anything normal by our western standards.

Finally he ended up in the UK, where he was excelling in chemistry classes and studied Biomedical engineering at UCL in London. After a short time he realised there was more to life than lectures and decided to train in body transformation. Making a connection to his desire of helping others. Although quitting an engineering degree was a big deal for his family, small things like this no longer bothered him. After all, life could be a lot worse than living in London.


“Inherently i can be very lazy, but all of a sudden i just shift and I end up performing on higher level” - Lazo [9:30]


After witnessing only 50% of clients transforming he quickly realised that exercise wasn’t the key. That he needed to look deep into the psychology and mindset that makes for a deeper, more solid transformation. He hit upon a working formula, that the decisions we take are not intellectual and that most decisions, especially successful ones are rooted in emotion.

Unfortunately, a lot of the negative things in life, especially things that hold us back are also rooted in emotion. So Lazo set about finding ways to clear out the soul, including shifting both current and past life traumas and toxins.

“Our highest quality vibrational thought is one that is conducive of our greater good” - Lazo [36:48]

Lazo shares his 3 crying styles:

  1. Positive tears - Crying because you’re happy.
  2. Negative tears - Crying because you’re upset.
  3. Neutral tears from the soul - These are the type he urges you to regularly find.

He combines this with meditation and the correct way of breathing using the Wim Hof technique from your diaphragm instead of shallow throat parasympathetic breathing. He even guides us through his own inspirational, truly amazing meditation. Practice this and we are sure you’ll be impressed.

“We all have different perceptions, what else are we not seeing because humans don’t have the senses or aren’t tuned into it? The process is like cleaning a mirror and seeing a deeper picture” - Lazo [26:00]

Here’s what else we get into:

  • Healing is all about unlearning
  • Alpha and Beta consciousness - which is critical and which is trance like
  • Intuition is your real tutor
  • Journalling opens your heart
  • Consciousness is like playing music that is in tune with the universe
  • Opening your heart is a treasure chest
  • Early experiences and cleaning out trauma.
  • Finding the signs that your body is telling you, you’re off path

Hope you enjoyed this week’s episode with Lazo, you can find out more about him here:




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